Posted by Rafael Grether on June 15, 19101 at 17:48:26:

In Reply to: Haydn-Beethoven themes posted by Martin on November 17, 1999 at 20:35:43:

: Have just listened for the first time to Haydn's string quartet in G Major, Op 17 No5. (Recording by the Kodaly Qtt on Naxos)
: The third movement has a short theme, rather like a declamatory stement, which seems to me to be so like a page in
: the last movement of Beethoven's Choral Symphony. The Beethoven theme comes just at the start of the first male voice entry
: (before the chorus get going) and is echoed by the orchestra.

: Is this a well recognised reference? I'm not a musicologist (evident from my poor description of the theme locations!) and
: would be happy to hear that it is a well known relationship.
: I'm not sure about dates either - which would have come first? Or perhaps there is a third source which they are both qoting.

: Any comments?

: TIA

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