Posted by Martha on May 02, 19104 at 18:42:40:

In Reply to: God is Vague for a reason posted by Lisa on May 01, 19104 at 01:21:58:

As I had previously stated before in my argument I was not blaming God for the fall of mankind, I was simply stating that I find it unfair for humankind to always blame Satan, when we know what Satan's weaknesses are but don't know God's. If God was so omniscient and omnipotent then why did he allow for the fall of mankind? As stated in lines 29-35 "When Will and Reason (Reason also is Choice)/ Useless and vain, of freedom both despond, / Made pasive both, had severity Necessity/ Not me? They therefore as to right belonged, / So were created, nor can justly accuse/Their Maker or their making of their fate/ As if predestination overruled," we have a choice of our destination, or don't we? This all boils down to the fate vs. free will argument. And the solution for this argument rests in your beliefs. Do you think that everything is planned out for us already? Or, do we have a choice in our destiny? I don’t think that there is exactly one person at fault for the fall, each played a part in the event. However, I think a lot rests on how each helped to fix the situation. Yes, it is apparent that God allows evil to occur (why? we don’t exactly know) but, God tries to turn evil into good. Which is where God’s Son comes into play. In Book III, we know that God’s God is repeating what God says. (147-152) “Thy sovereign sentence, that man should find grace: / For which both Heaven and Earth shall high extol/Thy praises, with th’ innumerable sound/Of hymns and sacred songs, wherewith thy throne Encompased shall resound thee ever blest. /For should man finally be lost, should man/Thy creature late so loved, thy youngest son, fall circomvented thus by fraud, through joined/ With his own folly?” How is it that God is so vague, when God’s Son shows signs of compasion? Adam and Eve are responsible for this. Through the fall of mankind, better known as “felix culpa” we are able to experience love, happiness, and compasion, but also experience pain, and sorrow. My ultimate point that I am trying to make out of this entire paragraph is that, yes humans have fallen from grace because Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit, but I think we are missing the point of receiving redemption and salvation. You can receive these things if you continue to have devotion toward God. Which is Milton’s final point, by stating that he was going to “justify the ways of God to man,” he was alluding us to the fact that to know this answer is impossible. We cannot “justify the ways of God to man” because that answer realize solely on your beliefs and what is in your heart.

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• Re: This is a long one! Mirai 09:17:58 5/03/104 (0)
• Typing errror Martha 22:10:28 5/02/104 (0)

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